tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5862444008740250372.post1519385736873346811..comments2024-02-01T04:37:41.878-05:00Comments on Cap'n Transit Rides Again: 21st Street and Astoria BoulevardCap'n Transithttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17057887736728828646noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5862444008740250372.post-24035330593298672652015-08-01T10:19:03.396-04:002015-08-01T10:19:03.396-04:00"If you pooh-pooh this idea, though, I want t..."If you pooh-pooh this idea, though, I want to hear what your alternative is to make use of the spare capacity in the Sixth Avenue local tunnels."<br /><br />Unrelated to the other comment, is there actually spare capacity in the Sixth Avenue local? The M shares those tracks with the F which is presumably accounting for whatever difference exists between the total capacity of 6 Av and the capacity utilized by the M. There might be capacity in the 63 St Tunnel itself but the appropriate use for that is, as Alon mentioned, some service to counterbalance the capacity otherwise lost on 2 Av by the presence of the Q. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5862444008740250372.post-7541287270727503232015-08-01T10:01:56.852-04:002015-08-01T10:01:56.852-04:00All other things being equal, the Astoria Boulevar...All other things being equal, the Astoria Boulevard Line should utilize a new tunnel and connect to 86 St in Manhattan instead, leaving a provision for a second tunnel into Jersey at the other end of 86. People seeking downtown Manhattan can transfer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5862444008740250372.post-39753442850412972502014-06-25T02:17:53.121-04:002014-06-25T02:17:53.121-04:00Not connecting to the 63rd Street tunnels to get t...Not connecting to the 63rd Street tunnels to get to Sixth Avenue works just as badly for connecting to Second Avenue. Unless you want to figure out how to wedge more trains through the Steinway tunnels your choices for the Astoria line are the Broadway BMT, the Broadway BMT or the Broadway BMT. Sorta like how the people already filling the trains between Newark and Jersey City on PATH will get really really annoyed if the train goes to Elizabeth instead you have to consider where you are gonna send the train. The people using the Broadway BMT aren't particularly concerned about whether or not the IND has excess capacity. That is an important detail. <br /><br />For someone who has an hour long commute because they work out at JFK whether the train goes up and down any street in Manhattan isn't much help.Adirondacker12800https://www.blogger.com/profile/17108712932656586797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5862444008740250372.post-58268189932643463102014-06-23T23:32:52.051-04:002014-06-23T23:32:52.051-04:00Sure guys, Second Avenue, Broadway, whatever.
Alo...Sure guys, Second Avenue, Broadway, whatever.<br /><br />Alon, the problem with a subway on Northern is that it leaves the areas north of 30th Avenue underserved, while overlapping substantially with the #7 train's walkshed. This is not a horrible thing, but it's not the best coverage.<br /><br />Astoria Boulevard could also benefit more from any traffic calming brought on by the subway/el, since it's 130 feet wide, compared to 100 for Northern.Cap'n Transithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17057887736728828646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5862444008740250372.post-11734988566443111442014-06-23T02:20:46.654-04:002014-06-23T02:20:46.654-04:00Just because it takes them an hour to get work doe...Just because it takes them an hour to get work doesn't mean they work on Sixth Avenue. The Astoria Line connects to the 60th Street tunnel. You want to look how much capacity there is on the Broadway BMT. Adirondacker12800https://www.blogger.com/profile/17108712932656586797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5862444008740250372.post-37196747839716637882014-06-22T13:49:05.974-04:002014-06-22T13:49:05.974-04:00First, since all of this is a lower priority than ...First, since all of this is a lower priority than Second Avenue Subway, assume that SAS is already in place, including the track connection from Phases 3 and 4 to the 63rd Street tunnel. Since Phases 3 and 4 will have more spare capacity than Sixth Avenue, whatever additional line is built should send trains to Second and not Sixth.<br /><br />Now, because of the high population density north of Roosevelt, I'd say the best line to build is along Northern, to Flushing. It would also function as a relief line for the 7, which is very crowded east of Broadway.Alonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17267294744186811858noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5862444008740250372.post-2923421250335773712014-06-22T13:27:53.188-04:002014-06-22T13:27:53.188-04:00I think the line should just run to LaGuardia Airp...I think the line should just run to LaGuardia Airport. You risk pushing out the Astoria riders if you go too far east. An LIE subway is a good idea, but as a separate project and initially as a shuttle. jazumahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00890764412679388559noreply@blogger.com