tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5862444008740250372.post4479365451146899556..comments2024-02-01T04:37:41.878-05:00Comments on Cap'n Transit Rides Again: Frequency is the key to van successCap'n Transithttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17057887736728828646noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5862444008740250372.post-87364918147989190712010-09-20T19:26:15.193-04:002010-09-20T19:26:15.193-04:002 westbound trips on the B23 group ride occurred b...2 westbound trips on the B23 group ride occurred between 4:30pm and 7:00pm, both using 20 passenger minibuses. One was at 5:12pm, the other at 5:54pm.jazumahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00890764412679388559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5862444008740250372.post-6822529529714323182010-09-20T00:24:50.398-04:002010-09-20T00:24:50.398-04:00Well, there's this. But I'm not sure anyb...Well, there's <a href="http://econfaculty.gmu.edu/klein/PdfPapers/CURB.PDF" rel="nofollow">this</a>. But I'm not sure anybody's thinking that clearly.Cap'n Transithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17057887736728828646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5862444008740250372.post-74328674188668102512010-09-20T00:14:57.084-04:002010-09-20T00:14:57.084-04:00Wait, if the vans are fill-up-and-go, then what...Wait, if the vans are fill-up-and-go, then what's the point of even having fixed frequencies?Alon Levyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12195377309045184452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5862444008740250372.post-62773948108594063822010-09-19T20:46:09.759-04:002010-09-19T20:46:09.759-04:00Thanks for the link Cap'n.
As far as the pass...Thanks for the link Cap'n.<br /><br />As far as the passengers go, the advantage is that the vans operate with longer hours than their predecessors did. The vans all run weekends, whereas the Q74 only ran weekdays and the Q79 only ran weekdays and Saturdays. <br /><br />Now whether those weekend runs will be profitable to the operator remains to be seen. They may be better off starting out with weekday service and then expanding their service to weekends.<br /><br />By the way, is there any chance that the MTA will put these operators on their map? If they did it before with Jamaica, Triboro, Command, and other bus lines, I see no reason why they can't do it with thse lines.George Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15288033149559815848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5862444008740250372.post-26001140980643463432010-09-19T19:08:10.882-04:002010-09-19T19:08:10.882-04:00You mean the vans? I guess they could post schedu...You mean the vans? I guess they could post schedules on a website and possibly even at the stops. But that doesn't really fit with the way these vans usually operate (fill up and go), or with the way that the TLC set up the system (pick up only at designated, widely spaced stops; drop off at any agreed-on point).<br /><br />George, you can find maps with all the stops for each route linked from <a href="http://www.nyc.gov/html/tlc/html/passenger/group_ride_vehicles.shtml" rel="nofollow">the TLC's page</a>.Cap'n Transithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17057887736728828646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5862444008740250372.post-4338078732442109602010-09-19T18:32:38.643-04:002010-09-19T18:32:38.643-04:00Is there a way to ensure those buses reliably adhe...Is there a way to ensure those buses reliably adhere to schedule, so that people can remember when they will arrive and plan accordingly?Alon Levyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12195377309045184452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5862444008740250372.post-69232106407753340592010-09-19T15:53:52.046-04:002010-09-19T15:53:52.046-04:00But I just can't picture a lot of the Q79 ride...But I just can't picture a lot of the Q79 riders being destined for the subway. If they were, they would probably save their transfer and walk over to another local route that would take them to the subway. A lot of the riders probably wanted to go to the LIRR, and, if that is the case, the van company will have to try to time the vans to meet the LIRR.George Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15288033149559815848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5862444008740250372.post-35838591698325458862010-09-19T09:25:28.764-04:002010-09-19T09:25:28.764-04:00The Q79 is harder because there is no subway to tr...The Q79 is harder because there is no subway to transfer to. Youu will have to go bus-subway-van or LIRR-van. That is going to be a colossal challenge.jazumahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00890764412679388559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5862444008740250372.post-87943555984240330832010-09-19T00:57:27.986-04:002010-09-19T00:57:27.986-04:00The Q79 is a different situation than the Q74. The...The Q79 is a different situation than the Q74. The reason being that the Q74 competed with other routes for ridership, and there were other alternatives available: Taking the Q64 from Forest Hills, taking the Q88 from Woodhaven Blvd (if the local train is right across the platform), taking the Q46 to the Q20/Q44, and taking the Q20/Q44 from Jamaica, depending on which direction the passenger is coming from. <br />The Q79 runs on a corridor that has very little competing service-the only alternative is to travel to Springfield Blvd and back, which adds about 30 minutes to the trip.<br />Therefore, comparing the Q74 and Q79 is like comparing apples to oranges-the Q74 might not even be able to survive with 15 minute headways because of all the competition (not to mention, they offer transfer privileges, which the dollar van does not), whereas the Q79 might thrive with 15 minute headways.<br />By the way, what are the stops for the Q79 dollar van?George Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15288033149559815848noreply@blogger.com