tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5862444008740250372.post756107375777977992..comments2024-02-01T04:37:41.878-05:00Comments on Cap'n Transit Rides Again: TriboroRX: Is the capacity there?Cap'n Transithttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17057887736728828646noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5862444008740250372.post-48072120706444777212008-07-29T17:37:00.000-04:002008-07-29T17:37:00.000-04:00Everything is expensive if you look at it from the...Everything is expensive if you look at it from the right perspective. The problem is the east side access project and the second avenue subway are gobbling up all the money, nothing else can happen until they are out of the way. The prospect of widening a trench for a few miles in Brooklyn is nothing compared to the costs of building a whole new train station in bedrock under Grand Central. TriboroRX certainly seems important enough to get the attention and money it deserves when the other two are done. It would be interesting to compare the scope and cost of this project to the circle line in Chicago which I think is a bit further along. <BR/><BR/>Also, weren't there plans for a greenway along part of this route in Brooklyn? Is there anyway to fit a running path and bike lane here as well? Would it have to be built over the railroad?AlexBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18168093686591172292noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5862444008740250372.post-69843163165870231122008-06-12T10:30:00.000-04:002008-06-12T10:30:00.000-04:00Cap'n I fully understand and appreciate what you a...Cap'n <BR/>I fully understand and appreciate what you are saying. However, my understanding is that the most costly part of any rail expansion will be acquiring a ROW and NIMBYism. You bypass this by using an existing ROW. You are correct that it isnt simple. But given that gas prices are soon to hit 7-8$ a gallon federal money will be shifting to rail. NYC should have the proposal ready to drop on a congressmans desk when the time comes.<BR/>-jAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5862444008740250372.post-27874094710062367472008-06-12T02:15:00.000-04:002008-06-12T02:15:00.000-04:00Citylights, just so you know I agree with you in g...Citylights, just so you know I agree with you in general. I'll write a post about Staten Island soon.Cap'n Transithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17057887736728828646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5862444008740250372.post-71936855597274960832008-06-12T01:10:00.000-04:002008-06-12T01:10:00.000-04:00Thanks for your comment, Joby. One of the main se...Thanks for your comment, Joby. One of the main selling points for the TriboroRX is that it's "cheap." If you just have to put rails back in an existing right-of-way, rebuild some stations and buy more cars, that's pretty darn cheap for a subway line. If you have to dig a cut-and-cover tunnel under an active freight line, even for a portion of the route, it's not quite as cheap. Still cheaper than a cut-and-cover tunnel under a street, and a lot cheaper than a bored tunnel, but not just like laying some tracks.Cap'n Transithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17057887736728828646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5862444008740250372.post-89397226364287626882008-06-11T23:52:00.000-04:002008-06-11T23:52:00.000-04:00As a Staten Islander, I have my hopes on connectin...As a Staten Islander, I have my hopes on connecting Bay Ridge to Staten Island via tunnel, but it looks like Staten Island gets the shaft (not literally) as usual.<BR/><BR/>A tunnel to Staten Island would extend existing rail service from New Jersey that now terminates on the Island's west side. It would open the possibility of connecting NJ Transit to the LIRR and/or provide subway service between Staten Island and Brooklyn. Is anyone at all considering this idea?<BR/><BR/>Having the railroad run through Staten Island instead of New Jersey would mean more jobs in the city- since the rail yard can be located in Staten Island, not New Jersey. The only possible obstacle I can see is inability to expand the old North Shore right-of-way sufficiently to meet demand.CityLightshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07877603807943730606noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5862444008740250372.post-91805367460431672172008-06-11T15:28:00.000-04:002008-06-11T15:28:00.000-04:00cap'n this has always been one of the complication...cap'n this has always been one of the complications of the triboro rx proposal. However, Robert Moses actually anticipated having a double decker configuration with trains below and the cross-brooklyn expressway above, so its not inconcievable that the cut could be deepened, decked and covered so as to provide 2 levels of subway one level for passengers another for frieght. <BR/>- This of course is a costly proposal, but that doesn't mean its not worth doing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com