tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5862444008740250372.post8930588205334086407..comments2024-02-01T04:37:41.878-05:00Comments on Cap'n Transit Rides Again: Better subway station namesCap'n Transithttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17057887736728828646noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5862444008740250372.post-23572896613312689132016-03-06T22:20:47.468-05:002016-03-06T22:20:47.468-05:00Also agreed that two stations in the same complex ...Also agreed that two stations in the same complex -- if you can get between them *inside fare control* -- should always have the same name.<br /><br />One of the major problems is the naming duplication in the Queens street grid -- Queens has its own Broadway and its own numbered avenues and streets. Ideally *none* of these would show up in station names. Actually, ideally the streets would be renamed.<br /><br />Brooklyn has the smae problem but less so. There's probably some way to find a number-free name for all the stations in Brooklyn. I am less clear on how to do this in Queens.<br /><br />I do think that stations in Queens and Brooklyn should ideally have NO street or avenue numbers; that should be reserved for the Manhattan-Bronx grid.<br /><br />Anyway, the old way the stations were disambiguated was that the lines had names. You never stopped at "8 Av station". You stopped at "8th Avenue station on the Sea Beach line" or "8 Av / Sea Beach" for short.<br /><br />The actual mistake was this: when the lines were given letters, the stations should have had the line names suffixed, so that we would have stations like "20 Av/Sea Beach".neroden@gmailhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07475686367097445497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5862444008740250372.post-64789385646486066702016-03-06T21:55:07.455-05:002016-03-06T21:55:07.455-05:00I would actually prefer systematic names like &quo...I would actually prefer systematic names like "7th Ave - 53rd St". For *EVERY* station in Manhattan and the Bronx<br /><br />For Queens and Brooklyn, the street grids are actually a source of confusion, so none of the station names should have numbers in them.<br /><br />"Smith-9th" should be "Gowanus Canal".neroden@gmailhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07475686367097445497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5862444008740250372.post-63323732072557170002016-02-01T17:04:49.488-05:002016-02-01T17:04:49.488-05:00Im going to say they should have unique names.
F...Im going to say they should have unique names. <br /><br />Forget Paris, look no further than Boston. Kenmore Square. Kendall. Bowdoin. What do they mean? Who knows, who cares. What came first, the square or the station? Who knows, who cares.<br /><br />Make new names, like Rockley Square, Paterson Court, Brunswick Corner, Ike Mound, etc etc.<br /><br />In five years, nobody will remember the names were made up and assume they'd been around for 200 years.<br />James Sinclairhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00948509061118072998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5862444008740250372.post-47850100355184318072016-01-29T10:22:38.756-05:002016-01-29T10:22:38.756-05:00To be honest, I somewhat prefer the two-part names...To be honest, I somewhat prefer the two-part names, even if they are a bit redundant. To make them more explicit can remove a layer of confusion. When someone says "Seventh Avenue Station," intending it as the full station name, a reasonable person could mistake that for a shorthand name of another station. Nothing will eliminate the possibility of confusion, but I think that's a fair way to reduce the possibility.<br /><br />I also think that in general multiple stations within the same complex should share a name. This wasn't mentioned here, but one example is the Lorimer St [L] and Metropolitan Av [G] stations. I think that these should share the name like Lorimer - Metropolitan to enforce the idea that this is a seamless in-system transfer. Likewise, I think that Chambers St [J/Z] should share the same name as Brooklyn Bridge - City Hall [4/5/6] (as suggested in the report) given that they are in the same complex. Having two different names for so many stations that most riders don't actually conceptualize as separate stations makes the system seem more confusing than it actually is.WJFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02081950719798681831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5862444008740250372.post-37347687204016029132016-01-29T09:36:17.160-05:002016-01-29T09:36:17.160-05:00The F/G runs beneath 9th St there, so 7th Ave is a...The F/G runs beneath 9th St there, so 7th Ave is actually the logical name. Renaming it 9th St would be more confusing. Also, the 2 part names for the others make sense. Smith/9th is right where the line turns east from Smith to 9th and 4th/9th is a transfer station where the R stops at 9th and the F/G stops at 4th. Might be logical to just rename 7th to 7th/9th so it's consistent. You could also do 7th Ave Park Slope or 7th Ave Methodist Hospital. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04337729876550314547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5862444008740250372.post-52029678740364414512016-01-29T06:31:18.706-05:002016-01-29T06:31:18.706-05:00Park Pl is across City Hall Park from Park Row. A ...Park Pl is across City Hall Park from Park Row. A better name might be Church St.BBnet3000https://www.blogger.com/profile/06025782630936914958noreply@blogger.com